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Norskklassen

The Norwegian class on the Net


Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Ofte stilte spørsmål

This is the FAQ for the norskklassen group/list http://norskklassen.ce-service.biz/

24 April 2002 (draft version -- work in progress)
send additions or corrections to norris.weimer@ualberta.ca

The motto of this list is "learning through sharing". The members of the list are mostly people trying to learn Norwegian, but there are also Norwegian teachers and Norwegians in the list. List members speak English, French, German, Polish, Portugese, Spanish and other languages.


Table of contents

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How do I unsubscribe from norskklassen ?

Send an e-mail to norskklassen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Note this is a different address than you use for posting, so start a new message, don't just reply to a norskklassen posting.

How do I enter the æ ø å characters on my computer ?

See this page.

Why learn Norwegian ?

Whatever works for you. Since many Norwegians speak English very well, it may not be absolutely necessary for a tourist, but don't expect written things to be in English. People everywhere appreciate it if you attempt to speak their language, even if it's only a few words. If you are more than a tourist, people will expect you to make a serious effort to learn their language.

Is learning Norwegian practical?

There are many more people in the world who speak Chinese or Spanish (etc) than Norwegian, so maybe learning one of those languages is more practical -- or maybe not. A language is only practical if you use it, and that just depends on you and your own situation.
There is a famous comic strip in the "Hagar the Horrible" series by Chris Browne, which has been used many times.
http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/fun/hagar.asp?date=20010717

Hagar: "It would be a perfect world if only people all over the world would try to understand each other!"

Lucky Eddie: "You're right! The problem is to get everyone to speak Norwegian like we do!"

The strip was originally written in English, but in Norway, it is translated into Nynorsk.

In Norway, it is called Hårek den Hardbalne, and it is in Nynorsk. But it is not available on line in Norwegian.


Which Norwegian language should I learn ?

The history of Norwegian is fascinating, but to make a long story short, there are now several spoken dialects of Norwegian in use, and Danish and Swedish could even be considered dialects of Norwegian. There are two official written forms, Bokmål and Nynorsk, but they have a lot in common. Much more material is available for learning Bokmål than Nynorsk, so your first choice should probably be Bokmål unless you know you are going to a Nynorsk region, and even then, it's probably easier to learn Bokmål first, then adapt to Nynorsk later.

Norwegians feel strongly about their dialects, but (unlike some other countries) they manage to get along with each other anyway.

The Evolution of norsk
http://www.sprakrad.no/norma.htm (Norwegian)
[next version - something in English]

Norwegian is enough like English that it is not too hard for English speakers to learn how to read it.


How can I learn Norwegian ?

There are courses available in some places, but many people will have to learn it by themselves. For most people, this will not be their first choice, but it can be done. Norskklassen is here to help. There are several advantages to a course, not the least of which is that a fixed time schedule imposes a discipline.

Text books and self-study courses

For reviews of some of the available materials for self-study, see
http://norskklassen.ce-service.biz/reviews/

At the very least, you need a dictionary and a grammar book.

The most important thing is to do a little bit every day. If you spent an hour a day on it, you've got it made. If you only have ten minutes a day for Norwegian, you will still make progress. Again, the important part is not how long you study, but rather that you make it a regular habit.

There is a set of lessons available by e-mail. NorWord -- an introduction to Norwegian

When you sign up, you will be sent a short lesson each weekday for about six months.

The Less Commonly Taught Languages Project maintains a database of where Norwegian is taught in North America. You can search the database for colleges and universities, distance ed, summer courses and k-12.
http://carla.acad.umn.edu/LCTL/access.html

Summer courses in Norway

Oslo International Summer School
http://www.uio.no/iss/
has courses in Nynorsk

University of Bergen
http://www.hf.uib.no/i/Nordisk/sommer/index.html

Folkeuniversitetet i Oslo
http://www.folkeuniversitetet.no/
Has short courses for beginners, for example :
http://www.folkeuniversitetet.no/Kurs.asp?id1=287&cn1=Norsk%20level%201%20%2F%20trinn%201&id=3&cn=Spr%E5kkurs

Courses for newcomers to Norway

[link???]

Things to read

As soon as you are able, make it a regular habit to read something in Norwegian from the web every day. There is a wealth of material available. One good way is to pick a newspaper you like and read some of it every day. This builds your vocabulary and general comfort with the language.

Newspapers on the Internet
Aviser i Norge på Internet


Norwegian Encyclopedia on the Internet

http://www.caplex.net/

This has articles on many topics, and it also
has a monthly magazine feature and a daily quotation.

Proverbs, sayings, quotations, and expressions
Ordtak, ordspræk, sitat ...

The first three sites listed here have a Quote of the Day. So that's a good reason to visit the site every day and practice your Norwegian.

Abakus http://www.Webland.no/Sitater/

Caplex - Dagens sitat http://www.caplex.net/

http://www.start.no/nyheter/
Look down the page for "dagen i dag" and "dagens sitat".

From a Universitetet i Oslo English course, a list of sayings :
http://www.hf.uio.no/iba/nettkurs/translation/misc/info10proverbs.html

This web site has a searchable database of quotations.
http://creativeproverbs.com/
It is in English, but it gives the country of origin.


Diary

Something someone writes into every day. So why not read some of it every day ?

http://huldra.evang.priv.no/dag/no.html
Seven years of an Oslo girl's diary in simple Norwegian. You can read it for weeks and weeks! If you catch up, you can still read something new almost every day.


Tegneserie
Comic Strips

Yet another thing you can read every day.

"Dagens Dilbert"
http://www.vg.no/dilbert/

There are other strips too, including some Norwegian ones.

Search engines
Søkemoterer

If you are looking for web pages in Norwegian on a certain topic, just go to a Norwegian search engine, or use Google and tell it you want pages in Norwegian or from Norway.

a Norwegian search engine
http://www.kvasir.no/

Google
http://www.google.ca/advanced_search
Go into the Advanced Search page of Google, and select Norwegian for Language, and put ".no" into the Domain field to only see pages from Norway.

Another Norwegian search engine (uses Google)
http://sok.start.no/


Norwegian Bookstores on the Internet

explore !

http://www.bokkilden.no/
http://www.mao.no/
http://www.norli.no/

Children's books and web pages

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Norsk fairy-tales

Folkediktning og folkeviser
http://www.koordinatoren.com/kultur/folkediktning

http://www.lysator.liu.se/runeberg/folkeven/
Collected by Asbjørnsen & Moe around 1850 from popular legend.

Audio versions on cassettes and CD
Asbjørnsen & Moe Norske folkeeventyr I
http://www.lydbokforlaget.no/katalog/boker/339.html

An article in English about these stories :
"Our cultural heritage: Norwegian folktales and legends"
http://odin.dep.no/odin/engelsk/norway/history/032005-990474/


Audio books
Lydbøker

Books on tapes or CDs, with some MP3 excerpts on-line
http://www.lydbokforlaget.no/

Let's just say spoken Norwegian presents some extra challenges, compared to written Norwegian. So some times what you need is to see it and hear it, both at once. An audio book is one way to do this. Buy the book and the set of CDs.

Norwegian movies

There are a few available outside of Norway. Might as well look for Danish and Swedish ones too, since the languages are not totally different.

Non-Norwegian movies (DVD) with Norwegian subtitles

The studios release different DVDs for different regions of the world. The ones for North America don't have Norwegian subtitles or Norwegian sound tracks. Regions number 2 and number 4 do have Norwegian.

If you can get a DVD from a different region which does have a Norwegian feature, you have to have a special DVD player to play it, since normal DVD players willl only play DVDs from one region. Note also that the Norwegian DVD players normally use PAL format, not NTSC.

For a map of DVD regions, see :
http://www.unik.no/~robert/hifi/dvd/world.html


Internet radio and TV stations

Nett-Radio http://nett-radio.net/norge.htm
Has links to many (all?) of the Norwegian radio stations on the net.

AltiRadio http://www.altiradio.com/
Also has lots of links.

NRK http:nrk.no
The main broadcasting system in Norway, with several channels.

This channel uses Windows Media Player
http://nrk.no/kanal/nrk_p2/

Other channels in the above list may use Real Audio, or other
players. [more on this in the next version]

Some of these broadcast live, some have programs which are available to play whenever you want. For beginners, it is good to be able to repeatedly listen to a segment.

It would be nice to find a consistent source of spoken material with the written transcript also available (as for a news report for example).

Here is a TV channel on the web which people like :
http://www.tv2.no/