Norskklassen
The Norwegian class on the Net
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Ofte stilte spørsmål
This
is the FAQ for the norskklassen group/list http://norskklassen.ce-service.biz/
24 April 2002 (draft version -- work in progress)
send additions or
corrections to norris.weimer@ualberta.ca
The motto of this list is "learning through sharing". The members of the list
are mostly people trying to learn Norwegian, but there are also Norwegian
teachers and Norwegians in the list. List members speak English, French, German,
Polish, Portugese, Spanish and other languages.
Table of contents
[in the next version]
How do I unsubscribe from norskklassen ?
Send an e-mail to
norskklassen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Note this is a different address
than you use for posting, so start a new message, don't just reply to a
norskklassen posting.
How do I enter the æ ø å characters on my computer ?
See
this page.
Why learn Norwegian ?
- I am going to live or work in Norway.
- My girlfriend/boyfriend is Norwegian. (kjæreste)
- My mother/father/grandparents were Norwegian.
- I am going to visit Norway.
- I want to read Norwegian literature.
- It's fun.
Whatever works for you. Since many Norwegians speak
English very well, it may not be absolutely necessary for a tourist, but don't
expect written things to be in English. People everywhere appreciate it if you
attempt to speak their language, even if it's only a few words. If you are more
than a tourist, people will expect you to make a serious effort to learn their
language.
Is learning Norwegian practical?
There are many more people in the world
who speak Chinese or Spanish (etc) than Norwegian, so maybe learning one of
those languages is more practical -- or maybe not. A language is only practical
if you use it, and that just depends on you and your own situation.
There is a famous comic strip in the "Hagar the Horrible" series by Chris
Browne, which has been used many times.
http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/fun/hagar.asp?date=20010717
Hagar:
"It would be a perfect world if only people all over the world would try to
understand each other!"
Lucky Eddie: "You're right! The problem is to get
everyone to speak Norwegian like we do!"
The strip was originally written in English, but in Norway, it is translated
into Nynorsk.
In Norway, it is called Hårek den Hardbalne, and it is in Nynorsk.
But it is not available on line in Norwegian.
Which Norwegian language should I learn ?
The history of Norwegian is
fascinating, but to make a long story short, there are now several spoken
dialects of Norwegian in use, and Danish and Swedish could even be considered
dialects of Norwegian. There are two official written forms, Bokmål and Nynorsk,
but they have a lot in common. Much more material is available for learning
Bokmål than Nynorsk, so your first choice should probably be Bokmål unless you
know you are going to a Nynorsk region, and even then, it's probably easier to
learn Bokmål first, then adapt to Nynorsk later.
Norwegians feel strongly about their dialects, but (unlike some other
countries) they manage to get along with each other anyway.
The Evolution of norsk
http://www.sprakrad.no/norma.htm
(Norwegian)
[next version - something in English]
Norwegian is enough like English that it is not too hard for English speakers
to learn how to read it.
How can I learn Norwegian ?
There are courses available in some places,
but many people will have to learn it by themselves. For most people, this will
not be their first choice, but it can be done. Norskklassen is here to help.
There are several advantages to a course, not the least of which is that a fixed
time schedule imposes a discipline.
Text books and self-study courses
For reviews of some of the available
materials for self-study, see
http://norskklassen.ce-service.biz/reviews/
At the very least, you need a dictionary and a grammar book.
The most important thing is to do a little bit every day. If you spent an
hour a day on it, you've got it made. If you only have ten minutes a day for
Norwegian, you will still make progress. Again, the important part is not how long
you study, but rather that you make it a regular habit.
There is a set of lessons available by e-mail. NorWord -- an introduction to
Norwegian
When
you sign up, you will be sent a short lesson each weekday for about six months.
The Less Commonly Taught Languages Project maintains a database of where
Norwegian is taught in North America. You can search the database for colleges
and universities, distance ed, summer courses and k-12.
http://carla.acad.umn.edu/LCTL/access.html
Summer courses in Norway
Oslo International Summer School
http://www.uio.no/iss/
has courses in
Nynorsk
University of Bergen
http://www.hf.uib.no/i/Nordisk/sommer/index.html
Folkeuniversitetet
i Oslo
http://www.folkeuniversitetet.no/
Has
short courses for beginners, for example :
http://www.folkeuniversitetet.no/Kurs.asp?id1=287&cn1=Norsk%20level%201%20%2F%20trinn%201&id=3&cn=Spr%E5kkurs
Courses for newcomers to Norway
[link???]
Things to read
As soon as you are able, make it a regular habit to read
something in Norwegian from the web every day. There is a wealth of material
available. One good way is to pick a newspaper you like and read some of it
every day. This builds your vocabulary and general comfort with the language.
Newspapers on the Internet
Aviser i Norge på Internet
Norwegian Encyclopedia on the Internet
http://www.caplex.net/
This has
articles on many topics, and it also
has a monthly magazine feature and a
daily quotation.
Proverbs, sayings, quotations, and expressions
Ordtak, ordspræk, sitat
...
The first three sites listed here have a Quote of the Day. So that's a
good reason to visit the site every day and practice your Norwegian.
Abakus http://www.Webland.no/Sitater/
Caplex
- Dagens sitat http://www.caplex.net/
http://www.start.no/nyheter/
Look
down the page for "dagen i dag" and "dagens sitat".
From a Universitetet
i Oslo English course, a list of sayings :
http://www.hf.uio.no/iba/nettkurs/translation/misc/info10proverbs.html
This
web site has a searchable database of quotations.
http://creativeproverbs.com/
It is in
English, but it gives the country of origin.
Diary
Something someone writes into every day. So why not read some of
it every day ?
http://huldra.evang.priv.no/dag/no.html
Seven
years of an Oslo girl's diary in simple Norwegian. You can read it for weeks and
weeks! If you catch up, you can still read something new almost every day.
Tegneserie
Comic Strips
Yet another thing you can read every
day.
"Dagens Dilbert"
http://www.vg.no/dilbert/
There are
other strips too, including some Norwegian ones.
Search engines
Søkemoterer
If you are looking for web pages in
Norwegian on a certain topic, just go to a Norwegian search engine, or use
Google and tell it you want pages in Norwegian or from Norway.
a Norwegian search engine
http://www.kvasir.no/
Google
http://www.google.ca/advanced_search
Go
into the Advanced Search page of Google, and select Norwegian for Language, and
put ".no" into the Domain field to only see pages from Norway.
Another
Norwegian search engine (uses Google)
http://sok.start.no/
Norwegian Bookstores on the Internet
explore !
http://www.bokkilden.no/
http://www.mao.no/
http://www.norli.no/
Children's books and web pages
[next version]
Norsk fairy-tales
Folkediktning og folkeviser
http://www.koordinatoren.com/kultur/folkediktning
http://www.lysator.liu.se/runeberg/folkeven/
Collected
by Asbjørnsen & Moe around 1850 from popular legend.
Audio versions
on cassettes and CD
Asbjørnsen & Moe Norske folkeeventyr I
http://www.lydbokforlaget.no/katalog/boker/339.html
An
article in English about these stories :
"Our cultural heritage: Norwegian
folktales and legends"
http://odin.dep.no/odin/engelsk/norway/history/032005-990474/
Audio books
Lydbøker
Books on tapes or CDs, with some MP3 excerpts
on-line
http://www.lydbokforlaget.no/
Let's
just say spoken Norwegian presents some extra challenges, compared to written
Norwegian. So some times what you need is to see it and hear it, both at once.
An audio book is one way to do this. Buy the book and the set of CDs.
Norwegian movies
There are a few available outside of Norway. Might as
well look for Danish and Swedish ones too, since the languages are not totally
different.
Non-Norwegian movies (DVD) with Norwegian subtitles
The studios release
different DVDs for different regions of the world. The ones for North America
don't have Norwegian subtitles or Norwegian sound tracks. Regions number 2 and
number 4 do have Norwegian.
If you can get a DVD from a different region which does have a Norwegian
feature, you have to have a special DVD player to play it, since normal DVD
players willl only play DVDs from one region. Note also that the Norwegian DVD
players normally use PAL format, not NTSC.
For a map of DVD regions, see :
http://www.unik.no/~robert/hifi/dvd/world.html
Internet radio and TV stations
Nett-Radio http://nett-radio.net/norge.htm
Has
links to many (all?) of the Norwegian radio stations on the
net.
AltiRadio http://www.altiradio.com/
Also has lots
of links.
NRK http:nrk.no
The main broadcasting system in
Norway, with several channels.
This channel uses Windows Media
Player
http://nrk.no/kanal/nrk_p2/
Other
channels in the above list may use Real Audio, or other
players. [more on
this in the next version]
Some of these broadcast live, some have
programs which are available to play whenever you want. For beginners, it is
good to be able to repeatedly listen to a segment.
It would be nice to find a consistent source of spoken material with the
written transcript also available (as for a news report for example).
Here is a TV channel on the web which people like :
http://www.tv2.no/